Wednesday, October 10, 2012

Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts


Keep in mind that some a lot of this will be further explained when I post the timeline.  I’m not posting it just yet because of spoilers that I have figured out for our lovely FF charries.  This is generalized, but it gets the point across. 

The question: HOW THE HECK DOES FF7 FIT INTO YOUR KH CANON? TELL ME PLEASE!

Many have asked.  So, I shall attempt to answer.

FF8 is relatively easy.  (Yes, I know, I'm talking about FF8 when you all really want to be hearing about FF7).  However, FF8 matters because of Rinoa and Squall.  I'll say it again, FF8 is easy.  It  happened prior to AtP.  In fact, I'd say it happened before KH1 even.  The story is that Rinoa's world was in a ton of trouble and no one was doing anything about it.  So, she went off to find mercenaries (similar to what she actually did in FF8).  She found Squall, Quistis and Zell.  (Also ala FF8).  A small mercenary job soon turned into taking on Ultemecia.  Somewhere in there Squall and Rinoa fell in love.  (Still following FF8).  Then Squall had to return to Traverse Town and Rinoa had to go off to hone in on her Sorceress powers.  KH1-AtP commences.  Rinoa, Quistis and Zell show up in Hollow Bastion at the end of AtP. 

What about Selphie and Irvine? Well, since Selphie's on Destiny Islands, she's going to stay there.  Since the game ships Irvine with Selphie, why not he be there too? Why is he not mentioned? Sora, Riku and Kairi weren't as great of friends with him as they were Selphie. 

Okay, FF7. 

It hasn't happened yet.

Not even Crisis Core.  Well, not all of it.  Or, just suppose that it didn't end the way the did.  Or, it just doesn't fit.  Rar and I are talking about this as I type this... and it's just not worth it. 

First, let's explain Zack.  (Or at least try.)  In the FF7 timeline, Zack and Aerith die 1 year apart, maybe 2.  According to rar, closer to 1.  If Zack were dead, then Aerith would.... Oh nevermind I'm even going to use this as an argument because it makes my brain hurt.

I DON'T WANT ZACK TO BE DEAD.  SO THERE.

In BBS, Zack was in Olympus Coliseum.  Then he probably got himself a "hero" status then he went off and continued doing mercenary work, met Aerith (ala Crisis Core, who knows, maybe he fell into a church.)  During his mercenary work, he acquired the Buster Sword, dropping into Traverse Town periodically to say hi to Aerith.  He runs into Cloud and the two of them do mercenary work together until they end up going separate ways (for various reasons).  His appearance in BB in Hollow Bastion is the first time she's seen him in ... well... probably months.  (I was gonna say years, but then I realized that that's mean.)  Besides, there wasn't anything that explicitly stated he DIDN'T already visit her in HB.)  However, he hasn't seen her since before AtP.  So, there you have Zack.

This is different than rar's universe where Zack is, in fact, sadly, dead.  *sniffle*  Stupid Xehanort.

Aerith is rather self-explanatory, don't you think? She obviously isn't dead in KH, so... yeah, I'm keeping her alive.  It's her house in HB because it makes more sense that they live there and operate stuff out there for the Restoration Committee Headquarters.  Merlin's house is an adjunct.

Cloud.  Cloud is fun.  Cloud happened to have been on a world that was swallowed by darkness sometime in between BBS and KH1.  Because of that, he’s had problems with the darkness—for example, the darkness making him do things that he’s regretted.  Because of that, he's been trying to... attain forgiveness/move on/deal with his darkness/yadayadayada for quite some time now.  He has a Buster Sword like substance, but it's not the actual Buster Sword because Zack has that.  Cloud actually during his travels begins to fashion his Fusion Swords.  Anyway, Cloud's darkness took on the form of Sephiroth sometime before KH1.  Cloud had generally been dealing with him alone up until KH2 when Tifa insists on coming with him and helping.  Post-KH2, Cloud and Tifa were travelling the worlds to deal with Cloud's darkness aka, Sephiroth.  Post AtP, Cloud and Tifa are bunking in HB with all the rest of the FF charries and Cloud is still dealing with his Sephiroth problem. 

Sephiroth is not some child of Jenova stuff (that we know of) because he's a manifestation of Cloud's darkness.  He and Cloud have been fighting for several years now and neither of them consistently comes out on top.  Cloud and Sephiroth are feeding off of each other, but neither is overcoming.  (Much like Sora and Sora's Shadow in rar's universe, but Cloud and Sephiroth have been going at this way longer than Sora and Shad will ever do).  Sephiroth is stronger than Shadow because everyone can see him and interact with him.  Rar makes the point that if Shadow hadn't been so impatient to get out of Sora's heart, he probably would have been stronger.  Sephiroth knew what he was doing and bided his time so he could achieve ultimate bad***ery.  Yes, Shadow, that is a dis to you.  So there.

However, another aspect of this is that Cloud is stronger than Sora, no offense.  But he is.  So, you have two strong people fighting against each other periodically, and more often than not, innocent bystanders get hurt. 

This is why Cloud wants to deal with this by himself.  However, Tifa, Aerith, Zack, Cid, Leon, Rinoa, Tifa, Tifa, maybe Yuffie, Tifa, Sora, Riku, Roxas, Tifa, Kairi... you get the point... they all want to help him get over his Sephiroth problem and be happy-go-lucky Cloud again. 
Sephiroth will, eventually, get dealt with. 

Erm, I think that's all the real continuity stuff... minus the ages... which is a different post. 

Oh, Cloud grew up with Tifa in Nibelheim (yup, totally dragging that in there.)  Cloud and Zack met as mercenaries. Zack met Aerith as a mercenary and introduced her to Cloud.  Cloud introduced Aerith to Tifa.  Yuffie, Cid and Leon were part of Aerith's "party" in Hollow Bastion/Traverse Town.  This is intertwined and after FF8 events in my universe. 

Um, I think that's everything now.   Maybe.  If you have more questions, ask.  If I think of more stuff, I'll either update the post or put a new one up.

Yay.  

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